Thursday, 14 April 2011

In Praise of Fergie

Here's an ugly truth for you. Alex Ferguson, Sir, is the finest football manager the English game has ever seen. I mean that's uglier than a close-up of Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber's face mid-shit.

'How come I cannae see any decent opposition through this specs?'

I can hear the protests from the Scouse brigade but the Liverpool dynasty wasn't just one bloke was it? There'll be some advocates for Cloughie and maybe he did more turd-polishing with the players at his disposal but...

And there'll be some that argue that he can't be the best manager ever cos he's bleeding 'orrible. That opinion's got about as much influence as a Liberal in a cabinet meeting.

This latest outfit at Old Trafford are proof positive of Fergie's greatness. It's not a great team. The midfield's had a creativity bypass unless old man Giggs is Pilated in. The bench is pretty threadbare if you ask me. And if Vidic or Rio is out the back four's distinctly creaky.

Hellfire the Croxteth Bruiser was set to leave cos he recognised the shortcomings. Now Rooney's buzzing again and looking like the bastard son of Susan Boyle and Roy of the Rovers.

(Incidentally, Graeme Souness - emphatically not the best manager the English game's ever seen - insists that Rooney needs to be angry to play well. That is of course self-serving bollocks. Souness was always angry and it suits him to suggest other people need to be similarly furious.)

So how come United are still on for the treble? Well mainly cos Fergie's got them playing in a way that suits them. His reincarnations of United over the years have been little short of amazing.

First of all there was the Party Central brigade of Robson (get well soon), Brucey and co who he managed to dry out enough to keep going for a whole season. Then there was Hansen's 'kids' - a bunch of squeaky-voiced schoolboys who matured into top-class footballers once Robbie Savage had left. Not long ago he had Ronaldo, Tevez and Rooney criss-crossing across the opposition back-line like the Red Arrows in human form.

This season he's got a ploddy steady grind-it-out bunch of triers. Plus the best goalscorer in the division who cost him 6 million (I mean Chiquitita or whatever he's called - a snip).

He's not stuck to the same formations or looked for the same types. Not for him the tippy-tappy automatons of Arsenal. Or the steely-eyed mercenaries heeding the whiff of Roman's wallet.

He's made the best of what he's got or paid shed-bloody-loads when he's had to.

Yes he's bought a lot of duffers along the way: Djemba-Djemba (so shite they named him twice); Poborsky (he should've torn up that Czech a lot sooner); and Kleberson? Well not clever, son...

'What?... No boss I never ordered no taxi!

But he's made legends of looneys like Cantona, he's been patient with gelled show-ponies like Ronaldo and Nani, and his 1999 front pair were Cole and Yorke - I mean you'd have to be a genius to think that that was going to work.

It's an astounding record. There are things we can do without when it comes to Fergie. The gratuitous ref-bashing. The absurd mentality that makes him think United are being victimised just cos Rooney's gets banned for being a plank and he gets put it in the stands for saying the ref was biased.

He could also talk to the Beeb and stop sending Stonewall Phelan in to bat for him. It's petty and tedious. Then again the good managers seem to be able to harness their neurosis for the good of the team.

And there's the mysterious way he seems to manipulate time to encompass his team's victories.

(Maybe Rory McIlroy could do with his bunker mentality. Poor lamb. For three days he trotted around that course like a finely-tuned Goofy - and for the last round he was little short of a grief-stricken Donald Duck.)

It's clear Ferguson inspires loyalty, that's for sure. Some of the steady Eddies that have stuck there cos he's stuck with them: Brown, O'Shea, Fletcher... you've never heard them bleating about lack of first-team opportunities like the vast cellar of whines across the city at Eastlands.

Now I realise this blog will be coming as a great surprise to a lot of you. But the thing is I've been waiting for the demise/retirement of the Govan Beetroot for about fifteen years now.

I've been watching his touchline-jig getting more and more like your pissed Uncle attempting a hokey-kokey at your cousin's wedding. I've been waiting with baited breath as the noisy neighbours pelt him with wads of Abu-Dhabian wonga. I've watching the face redden as the old boy seems ready to reach for the blanket and the thermos.

(And while he does like his red wine, I reckon the boozy complexion must be down to the same condition as I've got - rosacea, it's called. You can alleviate the symptoms by cutting down on alcohol and spicy food so it looks like I'm stuck with it.)

Skin complaints? Bring 'em on.

Only Mourinho has kept Fergie under during all that time. And Wenger's Untouchables for one glorious strong-tackling season. Be great if real And United could fight it out at Wembley in the Champs League Final. The footy wouldn't be great but you could just watch the dug-outs for 90 minutes.

So do I like Ferguson? Nah. Not much. Am I saying he could've done all this without United's cash? Nah. And while there's still some debt for the Glazers to offload there'll still be money in Fergie's kitty.

But he's bloody good at his job. I mean I don't like our postie much either - he's always trying to charm the missus and he can't whistle in tune (I'm thinking of getting a dog) - but so long as he gets my letters to me I don't much care.

So fair play to him. I reckon a double at least this season. Barca'll probably stop him in Europe. But for him, at his age, with his track record, to be able to get that pretty ordinary side to two semis and a pretty certain Premier League.

The best ever? Fact. Rafa.

Now piss off and leave the rest of us in peace you gruff n greedy Glaswegian codger.


283 comments:

  1. Saw a good question today...

    What would happen if Torres took a penalty against Gomes?

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  2. Damn it robbed if my first as the fucking battery died!

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  3. In your FACE SD! smell my cheese!

    or

    unlucky mate, i had to struggle to get the bloody laptop to connect. Feel like im a bit sad now....

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  4. Great blog Robbo.....i have been waiting months for that. I knew if i stayed away long enough, you would give in and write about the man we all worship!

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  5. STGP was I right about the penalty though or was it something to do with implosion?

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  6. I have to agree with you Robbo as bad as it tastes to say it... ol' rednose is the best manager in England without question. Anyone that can take this Un**ed team to two semi's and the PL has to have a lot going for him.

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  7. Hey Scholesy, long time no see mate.

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  8. SD, yeah summat like that mate. It hurts my brain to try and figure it out. Need a computer or summat.

    Hello Bo, how you doing? I dont think the title race is over mate. Too many big games to go.

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  9. I don't see who can catch them mate, Arsenal wont, they bottle it whenever they have the opportunity, Chelsea (who I think are the best team in the comp) are too far away from you guys as are the rest.

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  10. This week could see Arsenal hand the PL to you guys... we play Liverpool at home on Sunday then next Wednesday we're away to Spurs... no guarantee of points at either game.

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  12. Great blog Robbo as always. Classic combo of penetrating analysis and rampant iconoclasm - love it. Any chance you could crank 'em out a bit more often than once every 10 days matey? It's hard having to wait so long.

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  13. I think we are all flawed Bo, not a great team in the league.

    I know what you mean about the Liverpool and Spurs games, but not sure if liverpool will be that much of a threat. They seem a bit dodgy away from home. I fancy you for a draw against spurs.

    I think we need to get something from our game and a point against chelsea to do it. We have Everton, who normally give us a battle, the geordies away, who will be up for it as well.

    Saying that, we are at least playing quite well at the moment and the players are back. Most of the season has been about hanging in there. How we didnt lose for so long i dont know.

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  14. You have the master of the headgame at the helm Scholesy... nothing he says he says without thinking of of how it affects his team and the opposition (and the referees)... his rants about the refs have purpose (the touchline bans are a joke so that doesn't bother him at all.)

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  15. Agreed mate, dalglish was very good at it in the late 80's and used to get at fergie, but i think he learnt from it and took it on a level. I have to say the touchline ban is a joke. The manager shouldnt be able to go in to the bloody dressing room.

    Right ive got to get some sleep mate. Up at 5.

    type soon, take care mate

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  16. agreed, a twat and a genius. but does he HAVE to be a twat to achieve those results? probably. In that case do the ends justify the means? oh yes. why can't other managers therefore adopt his twatish methodology to achieve similar results?

    they just can't, he's a genius

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  17. scolesy torrmentes would miss but gormles would dive athletically to get a hand to it and scoop it comically back into his net

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  18. mornin' all, good stuff Robbo, provocative too, not as much as Miss Millwall's tits from last summer but provocative nontheless!

    of course he's the most successful of this era but Bill Nicholson, Matt Busby and Bobby Robson must be in the debate, at least the debate in my head which asks the question; which manager of all time would I want managing my team? Fergie wouldn't make the top ten.

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  19. Bobby Robson would be my number one Trott by some margin... a great manager and a nice bloke; a rare combination. My number two would be Brian Clough, great manager but a bit of a twat (not in fergies class of twatiness though.)... take your pick after that.

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  20. I think Roy Keane is being unfairly overlooked in the 'Greatest Ever British Managers' debate.

    Great blog Robster. I hate United, don't get me wrong, but these last few seasons have stirred up very unfamiliar feelings towards old twatface Fergie. He has to be respected for getting a pile of steaming dog shite, albeit with a few gems in it, up and smelling of roses. Am I mixing my analogies too much? However, his record in the transfer market is shocking, so he can't be viewed as a great manager in that regard. And Cantona was already a great player at Leeds, and Sheffield Wednesday before that - Utd just bought a great player - it had nothing to do with Fergie turning him into a star.

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  21. Without SAF, simply a mid table team...

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  22. miss millwall 2010, trott? the one with only one missing tooth and merely fat, not clinically obese like the other tattooed, borderline criminal, crackhead, benefit cheat contestants? Runner up to miss sewage pump UK 2010? Lost her crown because it turned out all her kids were by the same father? That miss millwall?

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  23. or miss millwall 2009, the one with one eye one tit and one leg?

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  24. So it sounds like she's alright blogs.

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  25. Or is it all left? Boom boom.

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  26. Hey Robbo,
    The difference between Fergie and Wenger is...


    Fergie does it. Wenger just talks yak yak yak....

    When Un**ed lose, Fergie sits back and takes into consideration the situation and fires the team and players installs a kind of fear and hence players come out and perform.

    Wenger on other hand adopts a more softer approach, he again blows the balloon of hope by telling not so good players that they are young and one fine day will be one of the best in the league.

    If SAF wins the 19th title this season, it would be really a remarkable achievemnt for his team.

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  27. miss millwall 2008, of course, was just a lump of toxic shit in a jar

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  28. Sporting/Professional greatness seldom go hand in hand with chivalry.

    Examples: Woods, Federer, Ponting, Maradona, Schumacher (the successful one), ...

    However, there are many who do seem to take an account of themselves and consider others humans too

    you got your Tendulkar, Cruyff, Haile Gebrselassie, Robson, ...


    So Fergie, yes, to say he's the greatest ever football manager in england is true. To say he's a twat is an understatement.

    But I guess, his sort sleep well knowing they won and dont give a toff about what others think of them.

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  29. Sorry about the 10-day break. Was enjoying the Easter break and thought a blog on the Masters - that's golf - would have gone down like a cup of liquidised pig's kidneys so waited for some Chumps League action first. Avoided mention of Hysterico Gomes, note. Wasn't one of the Addams Family called Gomes? I think every so often Gomes gets replaced by Thing, and he's a terrible flapper

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  30. Robbo,

    we know you have to earn your living too so no complaints from this follower of yours if the blog's late.

    Spurs? They always find a way to make us gooners feel better, dont they?

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  31. bated breath...shome mishtake, shurely?

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  32. Am I saying he could've done all this without United's cash? Nah

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    Who knows?

    How much cash did he have at Aberdeen as his record there was fantastic?

    Nice blog though especially the "cellar of Whines"

    Good argument on this beeb one as well

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thefootballtacticsblog/2011/04/who_would_make_your_all-time_m.html

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  33. Noel said...
    I think Roy Keane is being unfairly overlooked in the 'Greatest Ever British Managers' debate.

    Great blog Robster. I hate United, don't get me wrong, but these last few seasons have stirred up very unfamiliar feelings towards old twatface Fergie. He has to be respected for getting a pile of steaming dog shite, albeit with a few gems in it, up and smelling of roses. Am I mixing my analogies too much? However, his record in the transfer market is shocking, so he can't be viewed as a great manager in that regard. And Cantona was already a great player at Leeds, and Sheffield Wednesday before that - Utd just bought a great player - it had nothing to do with Fergie turning him into a star.
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    Fergie focused him and ultimately brought out the best in Cantona (especially the 95/96 season)whereas other managers were unable or unwilling to manage him well.

    His record in the transfer market is excellent. Yes there have 5 or 6 shockers but the vast majority of signings have been brilliant.

    Roll on Saturday when we stick it to City yet again.

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  34. Robbo if they replace gomes with the Thing should they replace wee little tiny titch defoe with Hulk? (dont make me ang lee you wouldn't like me if .. etc.)

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  35. What manager hasn't bought a few duds in their time? Least he hasn't bought a Shevchenko, Balotelli or Torres in his time at United.

    Yup, Gomes did us proud the other night, mind, that said there are rumours 'Arry's finally lost patience with him and is looking for a new keeper.

    Narf London derby next week, aka the battle to see who has the most useless keeper and crocked defence.

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  36. To paraphrase living legend RBA, SAF lives in a pie shaped house, sorry wrong quote, take2..... Man Utd are like the Ooze in Ghostbusters 2 they feed off human suffering and grow strong from our sadness

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  37. Blog, not sure which Miss Millwall and I don't know her life story, I just know she has a fine pair of knockers and her picture appeared in Robbo's predictions blog last summer. The same predictions blog where I forecast ManU to win it all, that Miss Millwall!

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  38. Rosicky is doubtful for the Liverpool game.

    A real morale boaster that one.

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  39. Great blog Robbo

    my views entirely, but better expressed by you

    and as Adam said cellar of whines across city, excellent , tho unlike Adam, hoping for a draw or City win

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  40. wer di ya get ur pixs from robbo?u must be a cameraman at premiership grounds

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  41. Fergie focused him and ultimately brought out the best in Cantona
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    He certainly did that, culminating with him focussing his energy on a kung fu kick to a supporter.... great job.

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  42. The Rangers fans were looking to clarify what words and songs would be deemed unacceptable by the authorities.
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    This sectarianism problem that Rangers are facing is one that will not go away quickly... especially when their fans are so thick they need to seek clarrification as to what words are insulting, demeaning and bigoted.

    You have to wonder just how much a part religeon plays. I have the feeling that the majority of fans are just doing what their forefathers did before them

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  43. Just looking at a site that has all the United transfers listed since the 1800s. There's been some classic failures who'd I'd forgotten about. Jordi Cruyff anyone??!! I didn't realise that Ryan Shawcross was a Utd trainee. And yet they kept Jonny Evans?

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  44. Hate to say it - but Fergie is without doubt the best manager in the modern English game.

    And Gordon Strachan isnt.

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  45. And I dont see how closing the M1 is gunna cause problems for IOU fans - Citeh maybe....

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  46. And I hope the Gooners spank the wee scousers bums tomorra like

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  47. I'm watching Parliament before picking little un up - angry man that Sammy Wilson in 'e!!??

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  48. blogdignag said...
    the M1 is on fire!

    I thought it was sex? (Stupid bloody song if you ask me - which you didnt obv)

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  49. So the sun is out, but its a bit chilly around 8/9 degrees, which only means one thing (among others)

    hard nipples: almost as funny as when us men folk have an erection while in public.

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  50. Berba's crap fi9nishing's coming back to bite IOU at the moment.

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  51. And the ginga ninja strikes again it seems ...

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  52. Arsenal midfielder Cesc Fabregas on Twitter: "Paul Scholes is so much class. Legend.


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    D'oh!

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  53. Booooooooiiiiiiinnnnnngggg!!!!!

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  54. Man U lose... no treble this season. Yay!!!!

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  55. So who are Citeh going to choke against? Stoke or Bolton?

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  56. Bolton to win. And then grand summer treat to us by Trott!!!

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  57. Nice timing on the blogg subject Robbo - you knowed sumat didn ya :)

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  58. eh but man u of the genius manager were poor in the second half werent they?

    scholsey is looking like the late (in every tackle) gnev just before the end, oshea would embarrass a below average pub team, berba was in barn door/banjo mode, where was the creativity, nani aside?

    Man c are tomorrows people on a short jaunt to glory and when genius manager retires man u will be a championship team within 3 seasons as the glory hounds switch allegiance and I know this because I've seen the future in my crystal goldfish bowl wich used to belong to Derek Acorahs nan

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  59. Time for some El Classico prediction

    Real Madrid 4 - 7 Barcelona.

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  60. Man City 1 v Man Utd 0.... oh dear, how sad, never mind.

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  61. Half time at the Bernabeau, El Clasico is El Yawnio. Barca have had most of the ball but have played mainly in the middle third of the ground, with the occassional ball over the top from the Barca midfield or the odd Madrid break breaking the monotony.

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  62. Two penalties ensure the status quo (not the 2 chord wonders as Adam likes to call them) in Spain is maintained. Wish I had gone back to bed. It's good to see that Ronaldo is the same tumbler in La Liga as he was in the PL, not that he had many opportunities to go to ground as he hardly had a smell of the ball.

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  63. For the 'least important' el classico, match wasnt thst bad.
    Cup game next, hope barca can finish them off properly this time.

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  64. I'm absolutely shitting myself watching The Excorcist about that little girl who decides to become a man u fan

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  65. this is more like it, Drunken Master, Jackie Chan film about a new form of deadly kung fu you need to be pissed master

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  66. Nah - Steve McClaren is the greatest of all time. Never managed anything well and still got the England job - now thats a flippin miracle!

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  67. A lion will not cheat on his wife, but a Tiger Wood!

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  68. The funniest thing last night was during the altercation at the end, when Shaun Wrong-Fucking-Phillips stood up to the bastion of Twitter morality and the conveyor of the #stayOnUrFeet movement, Rio-IGotMeDrugsMixedUp-Ferdinand.

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  69. A lion will not cheat on his wife, but a Tiger Wood!
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    he he, good one Bo.

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  70. 1926: Last time ManCity beat ManU in the FA Cup final.


    Went on to lose to Bolton in the Final.

    Go Trotters.

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  71. Barcelona had much more of the ball but there was a slowness to their play – Mourinho had ordered that the grass be left long

    ......

    SAF take note - plant a few shrubs around the pitch, a water feature in the penalty area, trampoline for the younger players, that will completely fuck messi up

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  72. Jean-Marc Bosman, the Belgian footballer whose court case changed the way the transfer system worked leading to hugely increased player salaries, is now unemployed and living on benefits (Sunday Express).
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    guess, the eventual winners were the agents?

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  73. Good luck the Trotters, I think this could be your year! Any chance of a loan loan of Sturridge to the Tangerines then?

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  74. Good luck to the Trotters this afternoon


    and whose bright idea was it to have the same kick off time as A v L'pool?

    or was it the big boys Sky&EPL outmuscling ESPN

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  75. and H2H
    just noticed that the German Sports1 channel have amended their programmining from an Eredivise game to the FA Cup, and Sky.de got the other game as well

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  76. chesney plays accordion ...

    http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8867/arsenalgk2.gif

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  77. Sorry trotter, its looking like cit v city



    17
    min: GOAL!! Bolton 0 Stoke 2 (Huth)

    12 min: "I wonder what odds he was for the first goal," says
    Chris Waddle. Deary me.

    11
    min: GOAL!! Bolton 0 Stoke 1 (Etherington)

    Magnificent goal from the former fan of tiny pens. Etherington claims a loose
    ball five yards outside the box, spins in an instant and unleashes a
    wonderful curling long-shot that gives Jaaskelainen no chance.

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  78. Jesus ... Bolton are being annihilated.

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  79. Poor show Trotteries against the Potteries.

    If its a ManCity v StoCity final, is it too much to ask to raise Wembley to ground on the day with a surgical strike?

    I know, some of you would say, "But Spits, it cost us a fortune to re-build," but most sane people would agree that its a small price to pay for the undoubted improvement in living standards in the UK.

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  80. Well, commiserations Trott.

    Chin up!

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  81. Sorry Spit

    but I cant believe how players can make such tackles, by themselves or get duped into tackling, let the guy carry the ball, there was relatively no danger

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  82. Spit your 2nd comment was better

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  83. Holy Fuck, what was that?

    Congratulations Potters, that was a proper good hiding you gave us.

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  84. If anyone would like to make a bit of cash I can give such great predictions of Bolton winning today. Just ask, listen and go all in on the opposing team. This will also work with my fantasy footy team.

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  85. Well done stoke first ever fa cup final.

    Hope they win it now, they have some quality players and a top centre half partnership in shawcross/huth.

    You sound a bit jealous, spits?

    I understand, mate, I know how hard it is knowing your team won't win anything again. Arsenal and Vale have a lot in common.

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  86. just watching the recording of stoke/bolton, only one team in it, but, cunt of an ignorant twat of a commentator, stoke is NOT a "one club town" you wanker

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  87. evening trott....rewinds tape....

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  88. you were probably winding me up to make me relive the insult, but nah trott the dickwitted, bollock brained ignoramus meant stoke

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  89. I am truly in awe of FBH's fantasy footie score this week of 5 points. It would be hard to replicate because he does not have a team of substitutes. It is exquisite in it's ineptness (is that a word?) I am deffo trying to aspire to this and doing quite well.

    I didn't see the Bolton v Stoke game today, I presume Stoke deserved it? A bit of history who ever wins the FA cup then. I would like the potters to do it as Balotelli gets right on my tit ends

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  90. MNR, you're not alone, the Bolton team didn't see the game either!

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  91. I'd replay it meself and double check but I hit "delete" rather promptly at the final whistle.

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  92. oooh, my mate went to Wembley from Bristol today. I thought he had been a bit quiet on the texting. It must have been a bit painful to be there.

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  93. yup, a pint of deleter with a mind eraser chaser please H2.

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  94. Commiserations Trotter, looks like your team just weren't up for it today. Well done Stoke, I hope they can get a similar kind of result in the final.

    Looking better for the red side of Manchester after Arsenal couldn't find the goal again. Fergie will be feeling extra smug now, the git. Rio not too happy with Balotelli winding up the Utd fans at Wembley? He seemed to be ok with GNev doing it to the City fans.

    As for Bale getting the PFA Player of the Year award - not sure about that. Certainly in the first half of the season he and Nasri were the stand out performers, but he's been injured or out of form since January really. Not too much competition though I suppose - maybe Vidic has been more consistent over the season. Happy for Gareth though. Also glad he's under a long term contract!

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  95. I'm still reeling from the fact that Stoke scored five goals, all in open play, and played about as good a game of proper eye pleasing football as you're likely to see anywhere.

    I just hope they can go and knobble Citeh next month :)

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  96. Morning all.

    "Wenger said on Liverpool’s late equaliser:…
    We conceded the penalty after 11 minutes [of stoppage time] and the injury time was [supposed to be] eight minutes. It was no penalty and I don’t see where the three minutes came from."
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    Shut the fuck up Arsene! We did not score for 90 minutes and the game seemed to be a goalless draw which is simply not acceptable when we play at Emirates. Just because we first got a late penalty and went 1-0 up doesnt mean we dropped 2 points. We were anyways going to drop those points irrespective of penalty decisions.. rather than lamenting ref I think Arsene should be scolding his defenders Clichy and Song who failed to clear the ball.

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  97. I agree with that SS, that world-and-all-its-refs-are-against-us thing isn't working for your team, Arsene, maybe you're just not as good at it as SAF.

    Why not give being honest a try?

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  98. I agree Noel,Bale has been great in parts of the season but not sure he should be PFA player of the season. My non-biased personal choice would be Charlie Adam.

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  99. Blog, May be it is against his philosophy.

    6pts behind Un**ed now with 6 games to go. Meaning, Arsenal need to win all their games and improve upon the goal difference and expect Chelsea to beat Un**ed as well.

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  100. Arsene just endlessly feels sorry for himself - no recipe for victory

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  101. Wenger needs to spend big before next season. The young ones coming through argument is wearing a bit thin.

    I love watching Arsenal but it's time to bring in some experience, a couple of players who have actually been there seen it and done it, so they can pass it on to the talented lads there who haven't

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  102. say what you will against mancini and his eternal bore brand of footi, in Viera, Tevez and Toures, he has gotten together a bunch that indeed has individuals who have won summat.

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  103. Even Spurs have players who have won sommat, albeit we got him from your lot Spit :)

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  104. The Tees Mouth said...

    he [Fergie] gets put it in the stands for saying the ref was biased.

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    He didn't say the ref was biased he said the tie needed a "fair, or strong referee anyway". Some may think I'm nit picking but its a great example how Fergie says one thing and everyone in the media turns it into something else, resulting in a ban and a fine. Wenger got nothing for saying the referee's decisions were disgusting which although funnier than Fergie's comment, is surely worse than saying he wanted a strong referee.

    Anyway, fair play to Citeh, they played very well and actually looked a half decent side. I'm glad Stoke are through because I think they'll give them a good game in the final.

    Anyone watch the boxing on Saturday night? It was possibly the most disgraceful end to boxing match ever. Theres something funny going on here. Kahn was knackered and I'm pretty sure McCloskey could have won. McCloskey's game plan is always to soak up pressure for 6 rounds then attack. Then all of a sudden Kahn head butts him in the 6th round and the fights over. BBC five live were reporting it saying the fight ended because McCloskey was too badly beaten up. There wasn't a mark on him apart from the small cut from Kahn head butting him. I only hope McCloskey keeps going to set up a rematch maybe 3 or 4 years down the line because he had Kahn seriously worried.

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  105. Rod,
    It's all in the semantics of what Fergie said. He implied that the ref was either corrupt or incompetent. Wenger criticised the decisions and not the man.

    Boxing is like horse racing, it's riddled with corruption, it's too easy to fix. You only need to corrupt one man as opposed to a team. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but it's more spot betting than throwing a game though.

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  106. But Rod Wenger wasn't saying the ref was disgusting he said the decision was disgusting. You might not like it but this is the legal distinction, ie between saying a decision is disgusting and saying the person who made the decision is unfair (which means the same as biased.by the way) and weak. That's slander, a personal attack, abuse. Not that I care I think they're both cunts. Allegedly.

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  107. Panorama on Sven's con man tonight ...the man who persuaded...

    *Sven and Campbell to join a penniless league2 club

    *Notes County fans trust to sell the club for £1

    *A bank to give him half their states for free...

    A liar of genius....Cameron should have signed him up then we might have believed ..."the NHS is safe in our hands' ... "we're all in this together"

    There were a few signs. He had connections with A North Korean trillionaire, now correct me if I'm wrong but north Korea, only has one and thats the mad bastard in charge, and best if all....

    "King even referred to himself as Lord Voldemort, the character from the Harry Potter books who can never be named."

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  108. FBH, not sure that would stand up in court ;)

    How's the political arena treating you? AV or not?

    I will be voting for it, it's not great but a bit more accountable in my book.

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  109. mostly not redundant said...
    Rod,

    It's all in the semantics of what Fergie said. He implied that the ref was either corrupt or incompetent. Wenger criticised the decisions and not the man.

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    Ok I see what you're saying. But Fergie still just said the referee wasn't strong enough, which he obviously wasn't.

    blogdignag said...

    saying the person who made the decision is unfair (which means the same as biased.by the way)

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    Geh? No it doesn't. What he meant was a game of that size, magnitude and importance needed a referee who was strong enough to upset the home fans if one of their players needed sending off. Which in turn makes the referee a fair referee for both sides.

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  110. thats not what he meant rod and you know it. he meant unfairness as in lack of impartiality, due to outside pressure ie bias. But theres his genius he persuades his supporters that his paranoia is truth. Wenger fails in this even with gooners, as I said because wengers not as good st the paranoia team building technique . I suppose the other possible explanation for this is that man u fans and players are fucking thick.

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  111. I understand your point Rod, because ultimatley my point and Blogs lead to your conclusion, but can you see that criticising the ref like that is not sustainable as it trickles down to school boy football on a sunday?

    Refs make mistakes, by having that there is an element of jeopardy which makes the game more exciting. I don't believe in 'Fergie time' and am not biased against Utd, over a season it balances out in my opinion.

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  112. AV it!

    MNR they can shove it. What the lib dems forgot to factor into their calculations when plotting their faustian pact was that their blatant duplicity would taint any proposal they ever make ever again for all eternity. If the lib dems proposed a free blow jobs law id vote against it

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  113. I agree Blogs, sort of. I voted Lib Dem last time but won't next time as they have proved them selves as duplicitous c***s. I just want a want a Jedi knight as an MP somewhere

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  114. Id vote for genuine PR, MNR, but not this, its a bit of a fudge, better in some ways, worse in others. PR is the route to jedis in parliament. And nazis. And porn stars. Then id vote for the free blow jobs. From the porn stars, not the nazis. Unless they were Nazi porn stars. Just think, youd get to rub shoulders with Max moseley.

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  115. mostly not redundant said...
    I understand your point Rod, because ultimatley my point and Blogs lead to your conclusion, but can you see that criticising the ref like that is not sustainable as it trickles down to school boy football on a sunday?

    Refs make mistakes, by having that there is an element of jeopardy which makes the game more exciting. I don't believe in 'Fergie time' and am not biased against Utd, over a season it balances out in my opinion.

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    Absolutely agree with the point that refs are human and will make mistakes which adds to the drama of a game. However Fergie was upset because the same ref has had the game at Stamford Bridge for a few years and in his opinion he isn't strong enough. I'm not disputing Fergie questioning the ability of the referee rather the fact that everyone is saying Fergie questioned the referee's bias which he didn't.

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  116. I take it no one seen the boxing then?

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  117. Interesting that gender is not involved with your porn star blow job.

    Extremists are being voted in Blogs, in lower capacity jobs I admit, maybe it would be healthy for them them to be voted in to expose them, as opposed to them being hidden away and denying people have these views.

    I am confident if they were exposed they could be cut down in the public eye and kept under control

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  118. I was watching. Jackie chan in Drunken Master, rod.

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  119. I just heard an interview on 5 live Rod about the fight and heard it was a bit Dodgey about the fight being stopped early. Is McCloskey a Northern Ireland lad? Sounds like he was robbed, and Kahn is now refusing a re-match?

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  120. careful, MNR, you don't want to sound like you're touting for business ; p

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  121. heres footage of a man doing his ironing on the motorway.


    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3532344/Slow-moving-transport-chiefs-have-still-not-fixed-M1-bringing-Easter-travel-chaos-to-thousands-more-families.html

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  122. I don't get out of bed for less than a fiver Blogs

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  123. mornin' all,
    so, what we're saying is that the Kahn v McCloskey fight needed a strong referee and fergie is a nazi porn star who gives free blow jobs?

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  124. mostly not redundant said...
    I just heard an interview on 5 live Rod about the fight and heard it was a bit Dodgey about the fight being stopped early. Is McCloskey a Northern Ireland lad? Sounds like he was robbed, and Kahn is now refusing a re-match?

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    Yeah hes from Dungiven, about 30 mins down the road from Derry. You wouldn't be able to understand the man cuz hes pure culchie. I think because Kahn won comprehensively on points he doesn't have to do a rematch. But as I said it was always McCloskey's game to tire him out by dodging his punches for 6 rounds then attack so hes been really unlucky. The last couple of times Kahn went to the corner he looked seriously worried and he was straightening his arms during the 5th and 6th rounds like he was getting cramp or something.

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  125. the statistically best XI of the season so far.

    B.Foster, B.Sagna, J.Terry, N.Vidic, G.Clichy, M.Essien, C.Adam, S.Nasri, Nani, C.Tevez, D.Berbatov.

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  126. Rod the fierce:

    Some may think I'm nit picking but its a great example how Fergie says one thing and everyone in the media turns it into something else. Wenger got nothing for saying the referee's decisions were disgusting ...

    Well, OK, here we go; he who lives by the sword and all that...

    Quoted:
    "I'm too disgusted to speak about it," Arsène Wenger said of the crucial decision.

    So, where does he say the decision was disgusting? He said he was disgusted by it, not that the decision itself was disgusting. Plus he's foreign so maybe has an excuse for not picking exactly the right word. (You'll notice he often say contre attack, for example). The French word dégoûté, from which the english disgusted is derived, can also translate as outraged, made to feel sick by something, etc. So he was describing his personal feeling about something, not commenting on the decision nor the decision maker's ability or impartialty.

    Now THAT is nit-picking.

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  127. Being a lifelong Arsenal fan, I have often said that I'm not too worried about not winning trophies as long as we play attractive, attacking football.

    Unfortunately I think the players have taken this attitude on board too much and are dong their best to NOT win anything.

    There has been very little of the attractive in the last few games either. If I can't have both attractive and trophies, I want one OR the other, not neither.

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  128. dong, mat? DONG!

    (now that really is nit-picking, mat, good post btw)

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  129. Sort of nit picking here but Fergie is foreign too... I have more trouble understanding what he has to say than I do Wenger.

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  130. MNR - campaign going well - close to call - and as for AV - was struggling to make my mind up - but am moving against - but now am moving for - I hate democracy - will someone tell me what I should think - makes my life a lot easier :)

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  131. I played 5 a side tonight - I am now stiff as a board #justsaying :)

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  132. Blog - the "e" and the "i" on my keyboard are a bit dicky but... touché. I die by your sword.

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  133. Matt - do not fight the sword of blog - pink it is not - chucklesome it is - in the land of Vale it is the Messiah - and a vry naughty boy :)

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  134. Bloke on telly just named rooney as having 3 in a bed stuff!!!

    What I wanna know is how come that ugly neanderthal can get 3 in a bed!!!!

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  135. who knows how roo does it, fbh...

    but i'd like to see the bit where he asks Coleen to budge up so his whore can make it 3 in a bed...

    oh and hello all...been a while

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  136. The Football Association will write to Manchester United to remind them of their responsibilities after discovering a hole in the wall of the Wembley dressing room that the team used for Saturday's acrimonious FA Cup semi-final defeat by Manchester City. The damage is believed to be consistent with suggestions that it was caused by a United player or member of their backroom staff lashing out in frustration after the 1-0 defeat.
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    nice.

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  137. and by nice, I meant to ask, what cunt does that to a national monument.

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  138. Arsenal's Jack Wilshere could find himself at the heart of another club versus country quandary. The midfielder could line up for England in this summer's European Under-21 Championship, despite the opposition of his club manager Arsene Wenger. Wilshere has also admitted he wants to play for Great Britain in the 2012 Olympics.
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    more over, he will also play for the Harlem globe trotters, line up against tiger woods in the Ryders Cup, attempt to be the first person in history to circumnavigate the world in a glider, clean up the mess in fukushima, ....

    but only after he's sorted out the anti-christ in a keepy-uppy battle to death.

    the kid's al right.

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  139. 59th - good to see you again.

    Fbh - best of luck with the politics mate

    I'm off to kick a hole in a wall

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  140. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13126928.stm
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    UEFA to revoke the ban on Iniesta and the reason being he is good faith player.

    Hahahah joke.

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  141. Now now you Utd haters. I'm sure whoever damaged the Wembley dressing room was only acting with honesty and integrity, eh Rod? ;)

    Utd to further strengthen their grip on the title tonight I reckon, and Arsenal to further loosen theirs tomorrow night against the Mighty Spurs. This battle for 3rd/4th/5th/6th is getting too stressful for me.

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  142. mat_newton said...

    Well, OK, here we go; he who lives by the sword and all that...

    Quoted:
    "I'm too disgusted to speak about it," Arsène Wenger said of the crucial decision.

    So, where does he say the decision was disgusting? He said he was disgusted by it, not that the decision itself was disgusting.

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    Whoops. Made a bit of a booboo there but if anything it kind of proves my point in how media twist things to make them sound way worse than they are.

    Matt 1, Rod nil

    Spitfire said...
    The damage is believed to be consistent with suggestions that it was caused by a United player or member of their backroom staff lashing out in frustration after the 1-0 defeat.

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    Jesus wept, big deal. Send the bill to United, bit of polyfilla, bit of paint, done.

    Noel said...
    Now now you Utd haters. I'm sure whoever damaged the Wembley dressing room was only acting with honesty and integrity, eh Rod? ;)

    Utd to further strengthen their grip on the title tonight I reckon, and Arsenal to further loosen theirs tomorrow night against the Mighty Spurs. This battle for 3rd/4th/5th/6th is getting too stressful for me

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    I wouldn't be so confident with tonights game, I think the derby match tomorrow is the big one though. Arsenal lose and its all over. I still think Liverpool have an outside chance for fourth the way Citeh and Spurs are dropping points.

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  143. mostly not redundant said...
    FBH, not sure that would stand up in court ;)

    How's the political arena treating you? AV or not?

    I will be voting for it, it's not great but a bit more accountable in my book.

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    I'm viting against. Too similar to proportional representation which has allowed extremist groups to get into parlianents all over Europe.

    We have the best system already. The one with the most votes wins and the one with the most seats wins very democratic

    Lib Dems only want AV because it is the only way they'll ever have influence in government again as they have shown that neither side can trust them especially given the fact that they keep biting the hand that got them in there in the first place (students with their tuition fees pledge and Tories who were willing to work with them

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  144. blogdignag said...
    thats not what he meant rod and you know it. he meant unfairness as in lack of impartiality, due to outside pressure ie bias. But theres his genius he persuades his supporters that his paranoia is truth.
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    Given the fact that Chelsea are stil unbeaten at home when Martin Atkinson is lining up for them he may actually have a point though

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  145. If Arsenal lose to,morrow and we win tonight we can wrap the title at the Emirates

    Maybe then Wenger may asctually buy some players

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  146. With regards to tonights game I am expecting Man Ure to give the Toon an right going over, as Fergie will have had the hairdryer going full belt & thats what caused the hole in the wall at Wembley.

    BTW I say that as a dedicated Geordie & I can see what is coming tonight

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  147. Un**ed seem to be feeling the pressure too it seems. A loss against their cross town rivals to see their treble hopes dashed followed by a draw against Newcastle allowing Chelsea a chance to close the gap.

    The "Little Petal" being booked for diving must have had the Newcastle management fearful of post match damage to their dressing room.

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  148. I dunno Bo, a point at Newcastle isn't so bad. Unless of course you get a 4 goal start! ; )

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  149. I dunno Bo, a point at Newcastle isn't so bad. Unless of course you get a 4 goal start! ; )
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    But that was Arsenal Trott... that's to be expected... the great Un**ed don't drop points at Newcastle... oh wait, they do don't they.

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  150. D-Day in Narf London.

    It's our bid to get back into the Champs League vs Arsenal's title challenge.

    Bring. It. On. :)

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  151. What a relief that is, good point for the Toon in the end.

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  152. Parcel bombs sent to Neil Lennon, Paul McBride and MSP

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-13129139
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    forget afghnistan, send some soldiers into this fucked up country to bring them back to civilisation. The sick fuckers are right next to our border.

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  153. adampsb said...

    Given the fact that Chelsea are stil unbeaten at home when Martin Atkinson is lining up for them he may actually have a point though
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    But given that Chelsea are a very good team, and home form is normally a team's strongest, then it's no surprise that Chelsea should be unbeaten at home against any particular team, with any particular ref. Mourinho didn't lose a home game for nearly 10 years against ANY opposition- was that the ref?

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  154. Good luck to Arsenal & The Chavs tonight, would like to see both of them win as it will close up the title race & Man Ure still have to play them so could get interesting again.

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  155. yep that was a rubbish argument, Adam. Man u are unbeaten ay home all season.

    anyway let's see how strong and fair atkinson is reffing the fa cup final. These days any decent ref has a slander-from-fergie section on their cv its a badge of honour.

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  156. if arsenal win tonight , beat manu and snatch the title on the last day after man u slip up elsewhere it will be unbel ..... not going to happen is it?

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  157. But, I'd give someone's arm and leg for it to happen!!!!!

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  158. talking of fucked up.

    in La Liga, Real Zaragoza have been bought up by someone from Dubai and they are going ot rename the team a very inventive, 'Team Dubai'


    http://www.arabianbusiness.com/dubai-buys-spanish-la-liga-club--rename-team-dubai--394903.html?tab=Article

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  159. A rather frank and mature interview by Cesc Fabregas, I'd say

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13137122.stm

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  160. Chelsea coach Carlo Ancelotti says the Blues let too many experienced players go last summer and did not have the strength in depth when other senior stars were injured during the season.
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    agree. Ancelotti did and Arsene by letting Deco, Ballack, Carvalliho, Cole, etc to go.

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  161. Fabregas on Twitter:

    #cesc4official Incredible that people try and twist everything to make headlines. Arsene Wenger has had a huge impact on me and my career. Great man.

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  162. SS11,

    exactly what to be expected.

    He says, "in Spain, clubs like Real Madrid and barcelona dont have as much patience with thier teams not winning trophies for over 5 years"

    they say, he says, "If Wenger was in Spain, he'd be fired by now"

    thats media for ya.

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  163. they're right though, aren't they spit, he WOULD have been sacked.

    barcas success is via a deeper kind of cultural continuity which doesn't rely on the personality of the individual manager

    at port vale, they brought in an arrogant fool in gannon who fell out with everyone, whose tactics and team selection were questionable at best, and its probably cost us a shot at promotion. what other kind of business would zig zag according to personnel like this? these people behave like medieval lords of the manor with a droit de seigneur to fuck anyone they want

    arsenal should sack Arsene whose done a great job but he's become a loser. employ someone with a similar footballing philosophy but unburdened by the Best-Before-2005 stigma.

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  164. oh and also its clear that that is what fabregas meant as well ... Arsene would have been sacked. you can't blame the media if he doesn't realise the implications of his own words

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  165. Blog,

    I agree.
    Thing is, there is a section of fabregas's interview where he mentions how Puyol hadnt won owt before he was 26. For someone at Barca of all clubs, to not have won anything for 8 years of his pro career must have been a big deal but not quite unthinkable. They have won all that is there to win since overcoming their transitional period.

    Same must happen at Arsenal.

    It may well happen that Wenger buys in a top keeper, a strong defen-mid and a top striker and as a result they win the lot in the next season but answer me this,

    will the victory be accrideted to the new signing or more to Nasri, fabregas, Clichy, Song, Wilshire, Djourou, RvP etc, essentially the bunch that toiled (in however fruitful manner it may be) for the club during the last 5 years?

    What if they replace wenger with some one who signs 3 players in a squad of 30 odd and then takes all the credit?

    Wenger and the board set out to do a job of rebuilding the stadium, the team, the lot and asked the fans for patience.

    its a bit rich to now ditch one of the parties to that contract.

    I reckon, we should keep faith with Wenger for one more season when its true that he has money available. In the past, he has made such acknowledgements but anyone who had some degree of familiarity wiht the club books would testify that such claims were more to pacify the supporters than based on some hard bucks in the account.


    Sure the club MUST undertake all within their means to win, but they must not do anything beyond.

    We are doing al right.

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  166. still would give g. neville's arm and leg to win summat.

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  167. I'd give GNev's arm and leg to win nothing.

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  168. id give Jim gannons arm and leg to.. the dogs and the birds, a carrion feast

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  169. Well, I'm going to hit the sack. When I awaken, I expect Spurs to have beaten Arsenal in the league for the 3rd time in a row, and also for Berbatov to be back in a Spurs shirt for around 5 million quid come the summer. Tidy profit.

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  170. Robbo, you're attempt to jinx SAF by purportedly penning a blog in praise of him seems to be working. Since the blog went online, 1 loss and 1 draw for him. Good job, mate. Can we get the next blog on how Arsenal can never win the league this season (or, ahem, how liverpool can never make it to Europe).

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  171. Robbo's jinxer is legendary.

    He can rip away a good form of be it club o rindividual player by even just think about how good they are.

    remember when Arsenal beat Barcelona?

    ya know, when nasri, Walcott, rvp etc were terrorizing defences ?

    He's the fault its gone tits up.

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  172. I'm not too worried to be honest. Thought United played quite well last night in patches but Newcastle's effort deserved a point.

    On the penalty decisions I think Anderson's a very lucky boy and Chicarito is a bit unlucky. Whats the ruling for fouling, is it contact has to be made or intent or 100% contact?

    The guy Simpson blocked Hernandez's run with his leg when he knocked ball past him causing him to deviate. When he realised he wasn't getting the ball he fell over which to be fair other players like Gutierrez did a few times without getting booked. I think its a fair dive if you can have such a thing haha!

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  173. Robbo once mentioned the vale in passing. It fucked us up for all eternity and even wiped from the record books all human memory of the now forgotten 1942 port vale fa cup victory

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  174. I'd forgotten about that Blog!

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  175. Wasn't Robbo commenting on how earthquake-proof Japan's nuclear plants were?

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  176. rod the time to be afraid will be when Robbo says there's zero chance of the large Hadron collider producing a mini blackhole which sucks the earth into an alternative reality in which the nazis won ww2 and arsenal have a winning mentality

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  177. Robbo's favourite topic on a night out at the boozer?

    Peace in the middle east.

    they'r fucked, I tells ya. FUCKED.

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  178. and remember his blog, how Engerlaand were gonna deffo win the WC?

    yeah, about that!

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  179. Hopefully he doesn't mention anything about the royal wedding cuz I want my day off!!

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  180. dunno if he has said sumat about the current one but when he was younger, and Diana became the princes, he was heard saying how romantic it all was and how nothing could ever go wrong...

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  181. prince Philip is hatching a new princess death plot as we speak

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